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موضوع: ساخت آنتن وایرلس 802.11b با استفاده از قوطی فلزی

  
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    نام حقيقي: Reza ARYAGOHAR

    مدیر بازنشسته شناسه تصویری aryagohar
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    ساخت آنتن وایرلس 802.11b با استفاده از قوطی فلزی

    Circular Waveguide Antenna for 2.45 GHz / 802.11b / WiFi / WLAN

    Overview
    We have been experimenting with waveguide antenna, made from old food cans, to massively extend the range of 802.11b wireless networks. All that was required was fitting, in the correct place, a driven element consisting of a short piece of copper wire soldered into the centre of an N-type connector.

    One of the antennas made from a J&B whiskey tin.
    این خیلی خیلی مهمه.

    Note - This antenna is for use with 802.11b wireless computer networks or 2.4GHz video sending equipment. It is not for FM / AM / SW / LW radio useage.


    This was evolved primarily since the Pringle's can antenna. The Pringle's can, being cardboard, does not last long in a storm, and it is very hard to affix connectors securely. The dipole-less "yagi" bit inside is fiddly to make, and initial tests show the waveguide cans to work better.

    From studies of waveguide theory, which gets complicated, it seems that a waveguide antenna or "can-tenna" should have parallel sides, be a good conductor, preferably shiny, and the end needs to be be perpendicular to the sides. For 2.4 GHz the calculations indicate that the can should have a diameter between 70 mm (millimetres) and 100 mm. These are not a "brickwall" limits, but rather roll-off points. i.e. performance will diminish increasingly beyond these sizes.

    From practical use we have found that strength is a good virtue, and a fitting plastic lid is almost a must for waterproofing. See appendix for a list of cans found suitable so far.

    The ARRL (Amateur Radio Relay League) say that the required waveguide length is at least two guide wavelengths - The guide wavelength is the value of Lg (in the javascript calculator or tables of values below) and is dependent upon the diameter of the can. The smaller the diameter, the longer the guide wavelength. This suggests the larger acceptable diameters should be used so the can may be shorter. Also the larger the area of the mouth of the can, the more energy can be tranferred, so the greater the received and transmitted signal.


    Construction
    First we selected a can with a diameter of 96 mm. We calculated from this the value for 1/4Lg (a quarter of the standing wavelength inside the can), measured this far up from the bottom of the can and drilled a small pilot hole, then drilled the hole out large enough for a chassis mount N-type connector. It is not easy to find 16 mm drill bits in the UK, so we bought a 20 mm cone cutter. To the pin of the chassis mount N-type connector we soldered about 50 mm of 1.5 mm diameter stiff copper wire. This wire was then carefully cut to the value calculated for 1/4Lo. The edges of the N-type connector and the can around the hole were then abraded heavily with glass paper. The N-type connector assembly was then soldered in place to the can, on all four sides. It is important to get a good electrical connection between the N-type connector and the can. Also we have now sourced round N-type connectors which screw into the can (from rswww.com stock no. 112-0773) , and just requires a 16 mm hole drilling.

    Inside of the can, showing the driven element. Photo not taken whilst in use.

    The cone cutter will cut a perfect hole if the 16 mm washer from the connector is placed over the tip before cutting. With the tools to hand, the whole process took ten minutes.

    After a couple of years of experience and learning using these cantennas, it appears that it makes sense to drill a small hole in the can just behind the N-type connector. Thus any rain or condensation which finds its way into the can has an easy route out. The hole should not affect the performance of the antenna.

    Detail, showing N-type connector affixed to the can.

    Mounting
    This antenna has a beamwidth of around 30 degrees and needs aiming. Also the polarisation is important, that is whether the driven element inside is pointing skywards (vertical) or sideways (horizontal) - this needs to match the antenna it is communicating with. We have been mounting them around a standard 25 mm television pole with a U-bolt attached to an adjustable mounting from a television antenna shop - this allows adjustment in the horizontal and vertical plane. This has then had a short piece of stainless steel tubing clamped in, attached to the can with glue and gaffer tape, or cable ties. None of these are a very good solution. This is one point needing more thought...



    It was nescessary to aim the antenna before tightening the bolts fully, and check the polarisation was correct. This involved having the N-type cable attached to a PCMCIA (Personal Computer Memory Card International Association) card in a PC (Personal Computer) or laptop with someone down below monitoring the signal, although I have taken a laptop up on the roof - it is not adviseable. An ideal solution would be a hendheld PC with 802.11b card, and pigtail....

    Note - always point a can-tenna away from you, and do not look down into the can whilst running. This recommendation is based on caution rather than known danger. Human eyes have very little cooling, and hence are the parts of the body most likely to absorb, and fail to dissipate, excess microwave energy. The can is a focussed microwave device, thus better safe than sorry.

    Warning
    Apart from the fact it works really well, no-one has yet popped on their lab-coat and done any high-brow tests on this "homebrew twig", and of course manufacturers recommend you don't do anything which they don't recommend. Or attach non-proprietary stuff to their stuff. Of course.

    Tests on first construction
    Our first waveguide antenna had a diameter of 96 mm, with a length greater than 3/4Lg and was made from a can which came with a bottle of gin :-)

    The antenna was fitted with a standard television 75 Ohm connector (not a proper N connector). The pigtail used was made by removing the lead from a Buffalo Extended Range Antenna and attaching a standard television 75 Ohm connector. We are aware that the combination of 50 Ohm coaxial cable and 75 Ohm connectors is not a good impedance match and would result in loss, but at the time of testing, in Portugal, that is all we had, and we were keen.

    Comparison was made with respect to the internal antenna on a Buffalo PCMCIA 802.11b card. Using Wavemon (a wireless measurements tool) on a GNU/Linux laptop to measure received signal strength, noise and signal to noise ratio.

    Results
    Our first can, including cable loss we received around +4 to +5 dB (deciBels) improvement in received signal strength, and a +10 dB improvement in signal/noise ratio.

    Looking at data tables we estimate the coaxial cable used to have a 1.5dB loss.

    This antenna allowed us to maintain an 11 Mbps connection at 200 metres from the Buffalo Airstation Extended Range Antenna. We could not walk far enough with clear line of sight. We were impressed that this improvement was measured even using cheap television connectors from the supermarket (at the wrong impedance).

    First mountain testFinally we managed to get hold of some 50 Ohm N-type connectors. Unfortunately no-one seemed to stock the mating pair so we had no option than to reduce to BNC and back up again at the other end. This worried us not as we were eager.

    The only cable we could get hold of was RG58/U, fairly high loss

    We attached a gin can waveguide antenna to the Buffalo airstation, via 10 metres of cable, and pointed the antenna out of the window towards the HILL

    Iain went to the top of the HILL with his laptop, running Wavemon on GNU/Linux, and a dogfood can-tenna, via 2 metres of cable. The top of the hill has two large multi-sector mobile phone antennas, broadcasting around 800MHz, we believe. Iain was positioned roughly 50 metres below them (slowly frying his brain!).

    We had a clearish (tree tops) line of sight down the valley which measured 2200 metres point to point on the military map.

    Results
    We achieved a 2Mbps connection, with around 7 to 8 dB to spare, although in the excitement the figures got a little lost. Well, completely lost. The important part for us at this point was that it worked.

    Having looked at the specification sheet for the cable we were using, it seems not to rate as high as 2.4GHz in the losses, the highest rating is at 1000 MHz which is 0.79dB per metre. This means that by using far too much of the wrong cable we have cost ourselves 9 to 10 dB. This is good news for our next hilltop shot with short good cables, and suggests a clear 5000 metre shot.

    The can shown above has given us 16 to 17dB improvement over the antenna on the Buffalo wireless card. This is successful. We are very happy with the results of this can.

    We are now awaiting some spare time and enough clear space to do further range tests. We are expecting 10,000 metres on a can to can link.


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    Appendix
    List of tins so far found to be suitable
    Slimfast Double Chocolate - England - with plastic lid
    The Simpsons Double choc cookies - England - with plastic lid
    Douwe Egberts ground coffee - England - with plastic lid
    Baby milk formula - England - with plastic lid
    Furness Ginger Biscuits - Cornwall and England
    Golden Jubilee Beer, Robert Cain Brewery - England
    Nestlé Coffee Mate 500g - England - with plastic lid (thanks to Mark Gaved)
    J&B Rare whiskey tin - Portugal
    Larios Gin - Spain
    Stainless steel toilet brush holder from B&Q - very nice (thanks to Robert Currey)
    Any large dog food tin at a push, if you can't find anything better!



    لینک مربوطه همراه اسکریپت محاسبه

    http://flakey.info/antenna/waveguide/index.xhtml



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    عضو عادی شناسه تصویری kima
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    دوستان توجه هم داشته باشید که حتما باید جی اند بین باشه
    چیز دیگه مثل باواریا و غیره که درصد الکل پایینی دارن باشه جواب نمیده



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    نام حقيقي: محمد رسول راستی

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    جل الخالق . . .


    Mohammad Rasoul Rasti
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    m.rasti [@] outlook.com

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    نام حقيقي: محمدرضا شیخ الاسلامی

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    نقل قول نوشته اصلی توسط kima
    دوستان توجه هم داشته باشید که حتما باید جی اند بین باشه
    چیز دیگه مثل باواریا و غیره که درصد الکل پایینی دارن باشه جواب نمیده
    شايد هم اين روش جديدي براي فروش محصول خودشون هستش



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    نام حقيقي: زراعت پیشه

    عضو غیر فعال شناسه تصویری ramin3281
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    سلام


    این ابتکار تا چند متر جواب میده

    آیا هم عمل سند و رسیو رو انجام میده یا اینکه باید از تجهیزات دیگه ای هم استفاده کرد


    و اینکه ایا تجهیزات دیگه ای هم می خواهد


    اصلا اگه یکی از دوستان اونو به فارسی توضیح بدند ممنون



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    عضو عادی شناسه تصویری basic
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    اگه آنتهای Dipole رو که کوچیک هستن و Gain اونها حدودا 2 یا 3 dBi هست رو باز کرده باشین میبینین که زیاد پیچیده تر از یه سیم نیستن و شما فقط اون رو به وسیله رابط به دستگهاهتون وصل میکنید و همون سیم هم عمل Send رو و هم عمل Receive رو انجام میده.
    بنا بر این به نظر نمی رسه به تجهیزات دیگه ای نیاز داشته باشه .



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    نام حقيقي: Reza ARYAGOHAR

    مدیر بازنشسته شناسه تصویری aryagohar
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    نقل قول نوشته اصلی توسط ramin3281

    اصلا اگه یکی از دوستان اونو به فارسی توضیح بدند ممنون

    شما خودت زحمتش رو بکش. اجرکم عندالله



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    نام حقيقي: زراعت پیشه

    عضو غیر فعال شناسه تصویری ramin3281
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    می بخشید
    منظورم از تجهیزات دیگه اینه
    که برای وصل کردن آن به کامپیوتر به چه تجهیزات دیگه لازم است

    ایا به brigr بریج احتیاج است



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    nkm
    nkm آنلاین نیست.
    نام حقيقي: Ali, Niknam

    مدیر بازنشسته شناسه تصویری nkm
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    آره دیگه
    این فقط آنتن هست


    بزودی دوباره برمیگردم!
    ------
    علی نیکنام
    ali { a@t } niknam.ir

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    عضو غیر فعال
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    سلام

    آیا از این آنتن میشه جهت آنتن اکسترنال مودم های داتک استفاده کرد؟ و اگر نه چه پیشنهادی برای آنتن اکسترنال مودمهای داتک دارید؟

    ممنون



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    عضو عادی شناسه تصویری basic
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    For 2.4 GHz the calculations indicate that the can should have a diameter between 70 mm (millimetres) and 100 mm. These are not a "brickwall" limits, but rather roll-off points. i.e. performance will diminish increasingly beyond these sizes.

    اینا برای فرکانس 2.4 گیگاهرتز بهینه شدن



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    عضو غیر فعال شناسه تصویری m_amini
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    من خودم با همین چشمام دیدم که با قوطی روغن نباتی هم آنتن برا 2611 ساخته بودن و کار هم میکرد



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    نام حقيقي: مهران رحیمیان

    خواننده شناسه تصویری ParsE1
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    سلام به همه دوستان
    من نمونه این آنتن ها رو دیدم دوست عزیزمون RTC خودش این آنتن ها رو میسازه !
    اطلاعات کامل در این زمینه میتونید ازش بگیرید چون تجربه خوبی تو این زمینه داره !



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